Tuesday, November 25, 2008

Are men and women equal in the sight of God?


So on the TPS forum, a friend of mine started this topic. Quite a few people posted before I got to it, but it was really awesome. One of the scriptures that was posted was "your desire shall be for your husband and he shall rule over you". I've always been puzzled on this topic because of this scripture, but I decided to post what I thought on it anyway. I wanted to post it here to see if you all had any comments on it.. So here it is...

"........OK. Here we go. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." (you can find it) This is, no doubt, saying that EVERYONE, male AND female, are both equal in the sight of God regarding sin. One of the verses that has been used alot here already is Genesis 3:16 (oh, my, i even have it underlined in my bible.. lol). Because Eve did not listen to the voice of her husband, God said that she would have 1) great pain in giving birth to children, 2) a desire for her husband, 3) her husband as ruler. I think that the big thing here is what we are exactly talking about. Are we talking about equality in sin? or are we talking about equality in righteousness. This verse from Genesis really says nothing about equality between men and women; it explains the marriage relationship. Same in Titus 2:4 where it says that the young women are to love their husbands and children. Again in Proverbs 31 it says that "she does him good, and not harm". See, this is all NOT about equality between men and women. This is about the biblical wife. Equality, however, in the sight of God, has nothing to do with being humble or proud. It has to do with our sin and our righteousness. Psalm 36:1 says that there is no fear of God in their eyes. It goes on to say that all have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one. This proves that none of us are righteous without the saving grace of Christ. Therefore, we are equal in righteousness. Using my first verse, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, proves that we are all equal in sin as well; we all fall short of the glory of God.
Therefore, I believe that in the marriage relationship it involves a love for Christ and a humility to take the God-given roles of husband and wife. In the instance of equality I believe it has to do with our sin and our righteousness.
I'm REALLY eager to hear your thoughts on my post here. I actually have gone 10 mins over time, but I could talk about this all day.
I'll be seeing ya. Good topic, Ben.

<3 Lyd"

So, please, post and let me know what you think. I'm very interested in this topic!




Anna said...

something to add to the pot. First you know I believe for sure that we are equal, and that man (or woman) is not inferior or superior to the other. :) Let's get that right out of the way. And of course you know that any inherent value ANY of us get is from God and a reflection of Him, and not something we mustered up.

start with creation, before the fall. were man and women equal in God's sight? meaning, were they created equal? how do you know? i am thinking about stuff like them being "made in God's image.. in the image of God he created them.. male and female.." No sin had been committed. Think about how 1 Peter 3:7 refers to "fellow heirs of the grace of life." Is this referring to life after salvation (life "in Christ") or is it referring back to Creation? Does it give us some clues to the matter of being equal?

oh and there is so much more to say! but it is late and my birthday is in 4 minutes. :) LOVE YOU. MOM

Philiosa said...

I was going to say what you said about the roles in marriage.

I would say that in the spiritual world (the way Gos sees things) men and women are equal (in righteousness and sin) but in the physical world God created man to be the 'ruler' (i.e. the husband or 'the bread winner'). Adam was given the curse of working the earth and living by the sweat of his brow.

that was somewhat disorganized, but I hope you understood it alright. I'll try to expound on Thursday...

Philiosa said...

and I meant to say "the way God sees things" not "the way Gos sees things"